Tuesday, December 16, 2008

SOME SERIOUS QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS...

From: www.1000mistakes.com

1. The Quran many places tells that Allah decides everything - absolutely everything (f. ex. the time of your death is decided even before you are born). But the Quran also tells that man has a free will. These two are not possible to combine. (Muslim thinkers have not been able to explain this through 1400 years (the same goes for the next 3 questions, whereas question no. 5 is not discussed in Islam - there may be death penalty or at least extrication for it). F. ex. “The Message of the Quran” - a book certified by the al-Ahzar Muslim university in Cairo, one of the top Muslim universities - says: “We can not explain it, but it has to be true, because it is said in the Quran”. A very impressive statement when you know the Quran is full of mistaken facts and logically invalid statements, “signs” and “proofs”.
2. The Quran states that Allah is omniscient and knows everything also concerning the future. But the Quran also states that man has free will. These two statements are not possible to combine, as if man has free will, his dictions will change the future - and it will not be possible to foresee these changes if man’s will really is free, this even if the will only is free to a miniscule degree.
3. The Quran states that Allah is omniscient. But it also states that Allah sends accidents and catastrophes and demands fighting and war to test you. How do Islam combine these two statements? - if Allah is omniscient, he knows everything and testing is for no reason.
4. The Quran many places states that Allah blocks the way - or the way back - to Islam for some people, especially for “bad” persons. That makes them not regret and repent, which at least a few would have done under “normal” circumstances. All the same he sends these persons to Hell. How can he then be called a good god?
5. If the Quran is manmade - like all the mistaken facts and f. ex. invalid “proofs” may indicate - and if there somewhere exists a real god, Islam blocks all Muslims under threat of death penalty many places, from searching for this possibly real god. Is this a good fate in case?

Then there is the question of what values a society is built on. These values can roughly be split in 3:
A. Positive values - like honesty, caring for others, etc.
B. Empty values - things, acts or thoughts people believe are valuable because they are told so, but that really has no value.
C. Negative or false values - what tradition etc. tell is priceworthy, but that in reality are bad.
a. Islam has some positive values - like be honest, deal fairly, take care of orphans, etc.
b. Islam has a lot of empty values - like meaningless formalities, aping Muhammad also in meaningless details, etc.
c. And Islam has a big lot of negative/false values - like stealing/robbing, raping, enslaving, suppressing others, murder, hate and war.

Blogger comments:

1- We have the free will and God also knows the future. He control the history by letting what he wants go or get blocked. For example the first coming of Jesus was blocked by people God let their will to prevail. God does control all the events by letting our wills go in what direction he like though that may not be our will. That is why God will judge us mainly in what our hearts intended. At times the righteous of the Jews in the old testament God let them win and in other times loose. This mainly related to their intentions and following his commandments. However, they can loose at times even when they were the good guys. God does what ever he likes meanwhile he will not be injust to us as he promised in his book the Quran in the day of judgment.
2- How you can explain prophecies like in the Bible or the Quran. How he would tell the Jews that a prophet so will appear at this time or they will win or loose a war. How he could know that a prophet that was not born yet will come at certain time and will have certain characters. We do not know how God knows the future all of us in the three major religions. Remember he is God and not the guy next door.
3- God test humans he told us so in the Bible and Quran. He is in dispute with Satan about our souls and who will follow him or Satan. The way we look at that as Muslims who is able and right? of course God. Satan is the evil force so we agreed to take God side and will be paid well for that particularly in the after life. You have the choice no obligation which side you choose. Read the Quran well and choose your way. Heaven is not for free God wants us to suffer and be patient in suffering. These can be any miseries including wars. The right people in the three major religions accepted the trials and tribulation. God at times did the victory to the believers by himself like the miracles of the red sea to Moses and the Jews at other times he ordered them to fight.
4- The Quran clearly made repentance available all time before it is late when they are dying or already dead. Many of the Muslims killers and haters became the best Muslims. True there is a lot of scolding to the disbelievers they were not passive they tried to harm Muslims in every way. Even though they are invited to repent and God is most merciful.
39:53 Say: My slaves who have been prodigal to their own hurt! Despair not of the mercy of allah, Who forgiveth all sins. Lo! He is the Forgiving, the Merciful.
قُلْ يَا عِبَادِيَ الَّذِينَ أَسْرَفُوا عَلَى أَنفُسِهِمْ لَا تَقْنَطُوا مِن رَّحْمَةِ اللَّهِ إِنَّ اللَّهَ يَغْفِرُ الذُّنُوبَ جَمِيعًا إِنَّهُ هُوَ الْغَفُورُ الرَّحِيمُ (39:53)
5- Quran invites believe. It states clearly whoever wants to believe or disbelieve have the choice. God however reason with us about all the idols and Gods that we may choose or have chosen and made clear that he is the only one God of the Bible and Quran that we should worship. He promised those who would believe and do the good deeds to be in paradise and those who disbelieve to go to hell. He gave us all reasoning in the Quran why worshipping him and following his way will make us happy in this life and the afterlife. Even Jesus whose message was about compassion and mercy warned us about hell.
18:29 Say: (It is) the truth from the Lord of you (all). Then whosoever will, let him believe, and whosoever will, let him disbelieve. Lo! We have prepared for disbelievers Fire. Its tent encloseth them. If they ask for showers, they will be showered with water like to molten lead which burneth the faces. Calamitous the drink and ill the resting place! وَقُلِ الْحَقُّ مِن رَّبِّكُمْ فَمَن شَاء فَلْيُؤْمِن وَمَن شَاء فَلْيَكْفُرْ إِنَّا أَعْتَدْنَا لِلظَّالِمِينَ نَارًا أَحَاطَ بِهِمْ سُرَادِقُهَا وَإِن يَسْتَغِيثُوا يُغَاثُوا بِمَاء كَالْمُهْلِ يَشْوِي الْوُجُوهَ بِئْسَ الشَّرَابُ وَسَاءتْ مُرْتَفَقًا

Regarding the positive values they are plenty and agree with human reasoning. Regarding the empty values there is nothing empty. Some people try to do every thing the prophet did even wear as his cloths but for most Muslims we try to follow his moral characters. The negative values like war is positive when you fight back the aggressor you stop him or revenge for his evil. There is no robbing or stealing in the Quran. The war at the time of the prophet ends by the victorious taking over the properties of the other side and taking women and children as properties. In most time they dissolve in the Muslim families and become part of them and many convert willingly to Islam. Islam put the ways to get red of slavery that was common at that time.

No comments: